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(Karen Purze is the author of Life In Motion: A Guide for Gathering Life’s Vital Details, a workbook to help people get their affairs in order. She is currently working on a memoir about her caregiving experience. This article first appeared on The Conversation Project blog and is reposted here with permission.)

My father had cancer but didn’t want to talk about his health. Or his health care. Or his health care wishes. None of it. He wanted to know how his grandsons were doing. And how I was doing at work. And where we were going to have lunch after his appointments. For a year and a half, I fished for information about his care preferences. Each time, he “hadn’t thought about it.”

When cancer spread through his body, I thought he’d be ready to talk. Before, during treatment, he’d concentrated all his energy on making it through radiation, surgery prep, chemo, and recovery from chemo. He had no spare energy to spend on “what ifs”. In my dad’s case, terminal illness care wasn’t the right time to have a conversation about care.

Now, though, it felt even more important to have “the conversation,” And he was finally willing to at least broach the topic. Over a few brief and awkward conversations, we learned that he didn’t want to go to the hospital anymore, that he was open to hospice, and that he wanted to be cremated. Other than that, nothing. “The rest is up to you,” he finally said, ending the conversation for good. He didn’t have any more guidance, and certainly no more patience to talk about it. He had living to do.

I was surprised. To me, it felt slightly irresponsible to leave all these decisions to other people. But then I realized I didn’t have my own answers to many of the questions I was asking him. I decided I wanted to handle my own advanced care planning differently.

My husband and I had already each named one another as our health care proxy. I also had a basic living will in which I requested, if there were no reasonable expectations of recovery, that I be allowed to die naturally. In the face of so many unanswered questions about my dad’s care, though, it didn’t feel like enough. I thought I could be more specific. Give better answers than I was getting from my dad.

Sensing that the topic wasn’t going to come up on its own, I ambushed my husband on our next date night.

“If I’m ever in the hospital and can’t talk, I want you to know I don’t want to be put on a ventilator,” I said, reaching for the bread basket.

“What?” he said, though I know he heard me. He recovered quickly, asking “What if it’s only temporary? Like so you could recover enough to be okay without it?”

“Well, in that case …” I said, buttering my bread. I hemmed and hawed. I don’t remember my exact answer, just that as we looped through various if-then scenarios, I found exceptions to what I’d want in nearly every case. If machines or poor health prevent me from going outside to feel the wind on my skin, I don’t want to receive aggressive medical treatment … unless the treatment could allow me to regain some of my abilities. If I’m terminally ill, I want to be alone … unless being with me will help someone I love process what is happening. I want to share what’s going on with my health with my family … unless it’s too stressful for them. I don’t want to die at home … but I don’t want to die in a hospital either.

I realized, before our entrees even arrived, that my wishes depend on factors I can’t know right now. I knew I couldn’t create a long list trying to answer every hypothetical question.

“Look,” my husband said, “it’s going to be up to me. I’m going to have to decide.”

The truth of his statement stopped me in my tracks. The conversation was way too abstract. And all my choices were subject to change based on … well, everything. My health at the time, our family situation, health care technology, and so much more. He didn’t mean to end the conversation or imply that it wasn’t worth discussing. He just wanted to point out what he saw: in the absence of illness or injury, I didn’t truly know what kind of care decisions I wanted someone to make for me in unknown circumstances. He would have to decide, in the moment, with the help of health care professionals and others who care for me.

This realization changed the whole conversation because if he’s deciding, he’d better know what’s important to me. Not what’s important about my care through the end of life, but what’s important to my life. What makes it worth living? What does a good day look like? What are my values? I realized that if he knows the answers to those questions, I’m comfortable with whatever he decides. I understood more about where my dad was coming from — we knew his values, and for the rest, we would have to be his voice.

I no longer believe I can express my care preferences in detail, in advance. But I can nominate and prepare “my person”. You can, too. Decide who you want to advocate for you, and have that conversation. Formalize the decision so they have a legal right to participate in critical conversations with your health care team if the time comes.

Having the conversation isn’t about making decisions about ventilators and pacemakers and feeding tubes. The conversation is really a series of intimate conversations, sharing what matters most, with someone who cares about us, casually, over time. And the right time to start those conversations is now.



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Join the discussion 6 Comments

  • Eleanor Aronstein says:

    Stating that you give someone the power to act for you is very important. Having the legal power protects you from prolonged suffering. It’s best to have a lawyer draw the papers up. And it’s a good idea to ask the person if they have the ability to stand up to medical authorities who may be pushing for more aggressive treatments. You need a pitbull not a poodle – in this instance!

  • Janet Grossman says:

    Excellent points! I just became healthcare POA for the husband of a good friend who died recently, as he realized he had no one else to fill the role. I’d been specifically going to ask about ventilator use, but you are so right that there are unknowables. I’m very glad to realize that I do trust my ex-partner, who is still my POA, to make the decisions I would want. I forwarded this to him to make sure he still trusts me to do the same for him.

  • Laura says:

    This post really resonated with me. I’ve gone through almost the exact same conversations with my father (“just bury me in a plain pine box” was the most we could get out of him as he died of cancer) and my husband. Even though he and I are now in our 60s, our “planning” conversations rarely go anywhere beyond the pro forma advance directives we filled out a few years ago. We both suspect that he will predecease me (based on his family history) and I’ll be on my own later on. And when you don’t have kids, “on your own” is very real. So, that’s another level of planning.

    Your post captures how hard it can be to a) have the ongoing discussion and b) come up with real-time plans without having all the facts. Hopes and wishes aren’t plans, but at least we’re talking about it more openly ourselves and in the media as the Baby Boomers reach their undeniable latter years.

  • Mary says:

    Laura….I understand where you are coming from. I’m widowed with no children. Currently my SIL is my proxy but I sometimes question in my mind, her forcefulness to stand up for my wishes with the authorities and doctors or also, to not too hastily say “pull all the plugs”, if the end result of not pulling, could be more quality life.

    I have another friend who carries a DNR in her wallet issued by her Dr. but my Dr. said she wouldn’t advise that, as you could be in a car accident or your heart could stop momentarily and if you were revived, you could live for years longer…

    Lots to think about and hard to get it just right.

  • Edward C. Hartman says:

    Bullseye!!! Thanks so much.

  • Clyde H. Morgan says:

    I appreciate Ms. Purze’s attempt to address this issue. At the age of 82, I am probably less encumbered with indecision than some who are younger. Fortunately I have a wonderful wife who, although not in total agreement with my every request, is committed to carrying out my relatively simple preferences:
    1. If I am critically injured with loss of limb, sight, etc—let me go.
    2. If I have a lengthy, life-threatening illness—let me go.
    3. If the diagnosis is six months or less—let me go.
    4. If I become crippled or no longer cogent—let me go.

    Thanks to the guidance of the Good Death Society, she and I are legally, financially, and medically prepared, although my home state of Mississippi made this process unnecessarily difficult by being one of forty where PAD/PAS is illegal. Nevertheless, she and I are currently in the midst of shrinking my world by removing a lifetime of pictures and certificates from the walls of our home and storing them, and by donating my books to the appropriate libraries, or giving them and my treasures to those I love and know will appreciate them. We have also shared our intentions with our immediate family members, all of whom have professed their agreement and support.

    We are preparing two rooms. One is my bedroom where I work and sleep. It now contains a TV with DVD player and a couple of hundred DVDs of what I consider to be the best movies of the last seventy years. That is where I will be found if I am no longer ambulatory but still cogent. The second room is smaller with a hospital bed, some cherished family pictures on the walls, and a vinyl-cd-tape-radio player for enjoying the fantastic music I collected throughout my life. I am currently transferring the most memorable music to a couple of long-playing CDs so as I fade away, so will the music. Again, I thank Ms. Purze for her courageous leadership on this somewhat unpleasant but inevitable topic.

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